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Aug 4, 2010

Green Car Policies are Defective and should be Recalled.

By Viv Forbes, Chairman,

The Carbon Sense Coalition today called for an end to the massive subsidies to the green car industry and to rich buyers of green car toys.

The Chairman of “Carbon Sense”, Mr Viv Forbes, said that to waste taxpayer funds helping foreign car manufacturers to produce cars that consumers don’t want is bad policy.

“Worse still is a policy that encourages people to trash a roadworthy car and buy a trendy new one they do not need.”

Forbes explained:

“To collect, transport and scrap one car and build and deliver another one costs a lot in money, metals, and energy.

“These misguided policies benefit car manufacturers, car dealers, car financiers and some consumers. Everyone else, including the environment, is a loser.

“None of the so called green cars are really green.

“Electric motors, compressed air motors and hydrogen “fuel” are promoted as clean and green, but none of them are sources of energy. All of them need conventional electric power to provide their stored energy.

“Electric cars must fill their batteries from a power point. Compressed air cars must fill their tanks from a compressor which probably uses electricity. And a hydrogen car, if one ever appears, must fill its tank from a refinery using heaps of electricity to produce hydrogen from water or hydrocarbons.

“And where will the electricity come from? In Australia right now 93% of electricity comes from combustion of hydrocarbons such as coal, gas and oil. That will not change dramatically or quickly without putting the lights out. And a dramatic switch to “green” cars plus bans and taxes on hydrocarbon energy increases the chance of that.

“Electric cars are nifty and quiet, and may reduce harmful concentrations of hot exhaust gases in city air, but in Australia they will run mainly on carbon fuel. There will be zero reduction in the production of carbon dioxide (as if that matters anyway).

“The market is the best judge whether diesel, hybrid, electric, petrol or compressed air cars are used. The answer will vary from family to family and from city to country.

“For too long governments have been throwing subsidies at foreign car companies and “green” car buyers. Now they are pushing low cost cars out of the market with their “big bucks for old bombs” giveaway.

The new family car?

“Subsidies always encourage waste of the subsidised product – it is not a sustainable policy. The marginal savings in fuel consumption will never compensate for this extravagance.

“Green car subsidies are dud policies and should be subject to an immediate recall notice.”

Go here for a report on how electric cars will create a surge in demand for electricity in Britain.

Note: A Bill currently before the US Senate provides that 400,000 electric cars will be virtually given away at low cost -- or perhaps no cost -- to people living in "selected communities diverse in population" and "demographics." The bill also requires that any new construction or remodel of an existing structure must include the installation of proper hookups for charging an electric vehicle. So even if you have no intention of owning such a car, adding that extra bedroom will require you to spend additional money to install battery-charging infrastructure in your garage. The “land of the free” has become the “land of the free car” (built by the government owned car company of course).


  1. You post all viv Forbes papers.
    Are you his bitch?
    The antarctic land mass is rising due to the ice melt, the bottom seawater around antarctica is becoming less saline. This will change the ocean currents.
    Anyone who is a sceptic obviously has a short term monetary gain, and future generations can go to hell, which the world will surely come.
    You are all so fucking selfish!

  2. Here's just a tiny sample of other global warming catastrophe "facts" predicted by "scientists" that we have to watch out for.

    Smog disasters will kill almost a quarter of a million people in LA and New York in 1973, the oceans will be devoid of marine life by 1979 and by 1980 life expectancy in the US will drop to 42 years of age. The President will dissolve Congress during the food riots of the 1980’s, the rest of the world will nuke the US to keep our poisoned food from “getting” them, and the American population will dwindle to less than 27 million by 1999.

    New York City in 2008: “The West Side Highway [which runs along the Hudson River] will be under water. And there will be tape across the windows across the street because of high winds. And the same birds won’t be there. The trees in the median strip will change.”

    And here's a list of predicted catastrophes and "facts" from the Kiwis:

    As for short term money gain, follow that money. Al Gore became a billionaire over this scam.

  3. Hi Anna, I have a theory that all that less saline water around Antarctica is caused by all that melting of Himalayan glaciers that your mob reacons is happening.

    Gooday Bawb, I was thinking of hopping in my time machine the other day, but I thought about what was predicted to happen by the year 2000 and the thought of witnessing it was just too much for me.